Comments on: Price of Progress: M10 Pre-Release http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/ Magic: the Gathering current trends, play tips, gossip Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:50:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: RPrajzner http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1323 RPrajzner Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:34:18 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1323 I love me some G/X/x/x in M10 (going G/U/R/W in my pre) Here I go G/U/r with: Whispersilk Cloak Runeclaw Bear Centaur Corsair Entangling Vines Craw Wurm Enormous Baloth Llanowar Elves Prized Unicorn Mist Leopard x2 Borderland Ranger x2 Oakenform x2 Snapping Drake x2 Merfolk Looter Wall of Frost Mind Control Clone Time Warp Magma Phoenix Bogardan Hellkite 5Mountain 7Island 8Forest I also always build the deck then add one more of each basic. It's worked out well so far. You need 7 for Baloth and 8 for Hellkite. You have a looter and no X spells so late lands you just wanna loot. Mist Leopard is my only doubt here. We have no Giant Growths so he should go good. I love me some G/X/x/x in M10 (going G/U/R/W in my pre)
Here I go G/U/r with:

Whispersilk Cloak

Runeclaw Bear
Centaur Corsair
Entangling Vines
Craw Wurm
Enormous Baloth
Llanowar Elves
Prized Unicorn
Mist Leopard x2
Borderland Ranger x2
Oakenform x2

Snapping Drake x2
Merfolk Looter
Wall of Frost
Mind Control
Clone
Time Warp

Magma Phoenix
Bogardan Hellkite

5Mountain
7Island
8Forest

I also always build the deck then add one more of each basic. It’s worked out well so far. You need 7 for Baloth and 8 for Hellkite. You have a looter and no X spells so late lands you just wanna loot. Mist Leopard is my only doubt here. We have no Giant Growths so he should go good.

]]> By: two_eyes http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1315 two_eyes Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:40:15 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1315 The strength of this pool is the deep Green, specifically the Borderland Rangers (my kingdom for a single one, and here two fall into your friend's lap) and the Entangling Vines (which is absurdly good). The weakness is that your most impressive bombs are in Red, which is my least favorite color. My solution was to take the deep Green, add the good White, and splash two Black removal spells, because Borderland Ranger is a house. Excommunicate Undead Slayer Razorfoot Griffin Silvercoat Lion White Knight Divine Verdict Planar Cleansing Stormfront Pegasus Prized Unicorn Runeclaw Bear Centaur Courser Entangling Vines Craw Wurm Enormous Baloth Llanowar Elves Mist Leopard Mist Leopard Borderland Ranger Borderland Ranger Oakenform Doom Blade Assassinate Whispersilk Cloak Swamp 8x Forest 8x Plains If the thought of leaving Bogardan Hellkite and Magma Phoenix in the sideboard leaves you physically ill, replace the Plains with Mountains and the eight white cards with: Magma Phoenix Bogardan Hellkite Canyon Minotaur Lightning Elemental Lightning Elemental Sparkmage Apprentice Stone Giant Berserkers of Blood Ridge The problem is that this Red pool has so very, very little to offer. Look at the eight red cards I put in - they're all creatures. Red is not exactly known for its creatures. I would be super happy to play G/R with this pool with the phoenix, the dragon, and some of those awful creatures being burn spells instead. My white has one great removal spell, one decent removal spell, and one bomb that is just as devastating as Magma Phoenix or Bogardan Hellkite, and the best part is that no one will see it coming. But if you didn't play Green with this pool, you're wrong. The strength of this pool is the deep Green, specifically the Borderland Rangers (my kingdom for a single one, and here two fall into your friend’s lap) and the Entangling Vines (which is absurdly good). The weakness is that your most impressive bombs are in Red, which is my least favorite color.

My solution was to take the deep Green, add the good White, and splash two Black removal spells, because Borderland Ranger is a house.

Excommunicate
Undead Slayer
Razorfoot Griffin
Silvercoat Lion
White Knight
Divine Verdict
Planar Cleansing
Stormfront Pegasus

Prized Unicorn
Runeclaw Bear
Centaur Courser
Entangling Vines
Craw Wurm
Enormous Baloth
Llanowar Elves
Mist Leopard
Mist Leopard
Borderland Ranger
Borderland Ranger
Oakenform

Doom Blade
Assassinate

Whispersilk Cloak

Swamp
8x Forest
8x Plains

If the thought of leaving Bogardan Hellkite and Magma Phoenix in the sideboard leaves you physically ill, replace the Plains with Mountains and the eight white cards with:

Magma Phoenix
Bogardan Hellkite
Canyon Minotaur
Lightning Elemental
Lightning Elemental
Sparkmage Apprentice
Stone Giant
Berserkers of Blood Ridge

The problem is that this Red pool has so very, very little to offer. Look at the eight red cards I put in - they’re all creatures. Red is not exactly known for its creatures. I would be super happy to play G/R with this pool with the phoenix, the dragon, and some of those awful creatures being burn spells instead. My white has one great removal spell, one decent removal spell, and one bomb that is just as devastating as Magma Phoenix or Bogardan Hellkite, and the best part is that no one will see it coming.

But if you didn’t play Green with this pool, you’re wrong.

]]> By: Dochetwas http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1312 Dochetwas Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:38:12 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1312 Here's how I would build that pool... UG splashing for the 2 ridiculous Red flyers. Whispersilk Cloak Runeclaw Bear Centaur Corsair Entangling Vines Craw Wurm Mist Leopard Borderland Ranger x2 Oakenform x2 Magma Phoenix Bogarden Hellkite Essence Scatter x2 Snapping Drake x2 Merfolk Looter Wind Drake Sage Owl Wall of Frost Mind Control Clone Time Warp 8 Island 7 Forest 2 Mountain If only there were a Sleep in this pool...that card won me so many games at the prerelease! UG is a really good combination in M10, assuming you have at least decent cards. I'm tempted to put the Enormous Baloth in (it's enormous!), but I don't know what to cut for it. Probably gets sided in a lot against decks without black, but that's just my opinion. Here’s how I would build that pool… UG splashing for the 2 ridiculous Red flyers.

Whispersilk Cloak

Runeclaw Bear
Centaur Corsair
Entangling Vines
Craw Wurm
Mist Leopard
Borderland Ranger x2
Oakenform x2

Magma Phoenix
Bogarden Hellkite

Essence Scatter x2
Snapping Drake x2
Merfolk Looter
Wind Drake
Sage Owl
Wall of Frost
Mind Control
Clone
Time Warp

8 Island
7 Forest
2 Mountain

If only there were a Sleep in this pool…that card won me so many games at the prerelease! UG is a really good combination in M10, assuming you have at least decent cards. I’m tempted to put the Enormous Baloth in (it’s enormous!), but I don’t know what to cut for it. Probably gets sided in a lot against decks without black, but that’s just my opinion.

]]> By: MTGBattlefield http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1311 MTGBattlefield Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:23:36 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1311 <strong>Price of Progress: M10 Pre-Release...</strong> Your story has been summoned to the battlefield - Trackback from MTGBattlefield... Price of Progress: M10 Pre-Release…

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]]> By: JMThomas http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1310 JMThomas Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:08:40 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1310 Runeclaw Bear Centaur Corsair Borderland Ranger x2 Oakenform x2 Llanowar Elves Craw Wurm Merfolk Looter Wind Drake Wall of Frost Mind Control Clone Time Warp Coral Merfolk Essence Scatter x2 Snapping Drake x2 Gravedigger Assassinate Doom Blade Whispersilk Cloak Swamp x 3 Forest x7 Island x 7 Runeclaw Bear
Centaur Corsair
Borderland Ranger x2
Oakenform x2
Llanowar Elves
Craw Wurm
Merfolk Looter
Wind Drake
Wall of Frost
Mind Control
Clone
Time Warp
Coral Merfolk
Essence Scatter x2
Snapping Drake x2
Gravedigger
Assassinate
Doom Blade
Whispersilk Cloak

Swamp x 3
Forest x7
Island x 7

]]> By: Kenyon Colloran http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1309 Kenyon Colloran Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:25:30 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1309 I'd go Bu. I'd run all the black cards other than duress and zombie goliath. Then I'd add in whispersilk cloak. From blue I'd play clone, mind control, time warp, merfolk looter, and the two snapping drakes. As for lands I'd running 11 swamps and 6 islands. Yes Hellkite and Magma phoenix are bombs, but especially with hellkite costing 8 you're just going to be putting yourself in a situation where you have to rely on too many poor cards to play red. I’d go Bu. I’d run all the black cards other than duress and zombie goliath. Then I’d add in whispersilk cloak. From blue I’d play clone, mind control, time warp, merfolk looter, and the two snapping drakes. As for lands I’d running 11 swamps and 6 islands. Yes Hellkite and Magma phoenix are bombs, but especially with hellkite costing 8 you’re just going to be putting yourself in a situation where you have to rely on too many poor cards to play red.

]]> By: GRat http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1308 GRat Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:56:32 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1308 Pre re was pretty good, as you know my deck was almost the same as your brothers (odd). I liked how your deck turned out but Zeilend should have definitely been playing black in some way/shape/form. Although the color might have seemed shallow, overall it had some of the best commons in the color. BTW I made my way back up to Manahat, without getting too lost, later direction from Michael J :p. so the night worked out well too. Pre re was pretty good, as you know my deck was almost the same as your brothers (odd). I liked how your deck turned out but Zeilend should have definitely been playing black in some way/shape/form. Although the color might have seemed shallow, overall it had some of the best commons in the color.

BTW I made my way back up to Manahat, without getting too lost, later direction from Michael J :p. so the night worked out well too.

]]> By: Tekanan http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1307 Tekanan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:39:16 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1307 White seems strong too besides black (note how the multiple looming shades, tendrils and consume spirit would be able to push you into heavy black). Red lacks removals, but is begging to be played because of magma phoenix and bogardan hellkite. I would initlally go for RG, but realised that I would not have enough cards to make a solid deck. Going GWr is very tempting, but I think I would go for GBr instead. 3 Mountain 7 Forest 7 Swamp Prized Unicorn Runeclaw Bear Naturalize Centaur Corsair Entangling Vines Craw Wurm Llanowar Elves Borderland Ranger x2 Warpath Ghoul Bog Wraith Tendrils of Corruption (or Weakness, unsure about this but likely tendrils) Diabolic Tutor Gravedigger Assassinate Black Knight Doom Blade Zombie Goliath Drudge Skeletons x2 Vampire Aristocrat Magma Phoenix Bogardan Hellkite Whispersilk cloak White seems strong too besides black (note how the multiple looming shades, tendrils and consume spirit would be able to push you into heavy black). Red lacks removals, but is begging to be played because of magma phoenix and bogardan hellkite. I would initlally go for RG, but realised that I would not have enough cards to make a solid deck. Going GWr is very tempting, but I think I would go for GBr instead.

3 Mountain
7 Forest
7 Swamp

Prized Unicorn
Runeclaw Bear
Naturalize
Centaur Corsair
Entangling Vines
Craw Wurm
Llanowar Elves
Borderland Ranger x2

Warpath Ghoul
Bog Wraith
Tendrils of Corruption (or Weakness, unsure about this but likely tendrils)
Diabolic Tutor
Gravedigger
Assassinate
Black Knight
Doom Blade
Zombie Goliath
Drudge Skeletons x2
Vampire Aristocrat

Magma Phoenix
Bogardan Hellkite

Whispersilk cloak

]]> By: KBR http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1305 KBR Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:37:22 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1305 Whispersilk Cloak Runeclaw Bear Centaur Corsair Entangling Vines Craw Wurm Enormous Baloth Llanowar Elves Borderland Ranger x2 Oakenform x2 Doom Blade Essence Scatter x2 Snapping Drake x2 Negate Merfolk Looter Wind Drake Wall of Frost Mind Control Clone Time Warp Looks good to me, and similar to my deck. Time Warp can be nasty for just squeezing in some extra damage, and considering you have 3 good fliers and 2 big ground pounders along with the Cloak, Time Warp will almost always be extra damage. You've got the amazing Merfolk Looter, 2 Borderland Rangers to help with the1 swamp for Doom Blade, Oakenform to make your fliers even MORE lethal, and a couple of removal spells. Clone is totally nasty, and Mind Control won me half of my games on the day. I think U/G aggro-control is a good archetype in Sealed as long as you open a few really nice blue cards. I'd like to see a Divination to give your Looter some food, but he's totally unreal on his own. Whispersilk Cloak

Runeclaw Bear
Centaur Corsair
Entangling Vines
Craw Wurm
Enormous Baloth
Llanowar Elves
Borderland Ranger x2
Oakenform x2

Doom Blade

Essence Scatter x2
Snapping Drake x2
Negate
Merfolk Looter
Wind Drake
Wall of Frost
Mind Control
Clone
Time Warp

Looks good to me, and similar to my deck. Time Warp can be nasty for just squeezing in some extra damage, and considering you have 3 good fliers and 2 big ground pounders along with the Cloak, Time Warp will almost always be extra damage. You’ve got the amazing Merfolk Looter, 2 Borderland Rangers to help with the1 swamp for Doom Blade, Oakenform to make your fliers even MORE lethal, and a couple of removal spells. Clone is totally nasty, and Mind Control won me half of my games on the day. I think U/G aggro-control is a good archetype in Sealed as long as you open a few really nice blue cards. I’d like to see a Divination to give your Looter some food, but he’s totally unreal on his own.

]]> By: rakalite http://www.top8magic.com/2009/07/price-of-progress-m10-pre-release/#comment-1304 rakalite Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:39:11 +0000 http://www.top8magic.com/?p=1758#comment-1304 seems like a URb build to me (but I'm notoriously greedy on running too many colors, so YMMV) Whispersilk Cloak Sparkmage Apprentice Berserkers of Blood Ridge Lightning Elemental x2 Canyon Minotaur Magma Phoenix Bogardan Hellkite Gravedigger Assassinate Doom Blade Essence Scatter x2 Snapping Drake x2 Negate Merfolk Looter Wind Drake Sage Owl Wall of Frost Mind Control Clone Time Warp 7 Island 7 Mountain 3 Swamp Would consider moving the Negate to the board to play the 8th Island (18 land). seems like a URb build to me (but I’m notoriously greedy on running too many colors, so YMMV)

Whispersilk Cloak
Sparkmage Apprentice
Berserkers of Blood Ridge
Lightning Elemental x2
Canyon Minotaur
Magma Phoenix
Bogardan Hellkite
Gravedigger
Assassinate
Doom Blade
Essence Scatter x2
Snapping Drake x2
Negate
Merfolk Looter
Wind Drake
Sage Owl
Wall of Frost
Mind Control
Clone
Time Warp

7 Island
7 Mountain
3 Swamp

Would consider moving the Negate to the board to play the 8th Island (18 land).

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