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		<title>Comment on New Podcasts: Ravitz and BDM by Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/04/new-podcasts-ravitz-and-bdm/#comment-5079</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have the podcasts gone? It's been way too long since this one was posted to have not seen another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have the podcasts gone? It&#8217;s been way too long since this one was posted to have not seen another.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ruined FOREVER: The Magic 2010 Rules Changes by Zvi Mowshowitz by Warp</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2009/06/ruined-forever-the-magic-2010-rules-changes-by-zvi-mowshowitz/#comment-5062</link>
		<dc:creator>Warp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The genius of the 6th Edition change was that combat worked like everything else"

This is nonsense. Not everything uses the stack. Playing lands doesn't use the stack, paying costs doesn't use the stack, activating mana abilities doesn't use the stack, drawing cards doesn't use the stack, creatures being destroyed because of having 0 toughness doesn't use the stack, tapping and untapping doesn't use the stack, removing combat damage at the end of turn doesn't use the stack... Heck there are probably a hundred times more actions in the game that don't use that stack than those that do. Making combat damage not use the stack actually makes it more in line with the majority of actions.

Having combat damage use the stack is unintuitive, both from a flavor and from a gameplay point of view. Flavorwise these are physical creatures hitting each other. It makes no sense that a creature hits another and the other hits back and then, somehow, one of them is eg. unsummoned but its hit still connects afterwards, but it doesn't get any damage itself. How exactly does this physical hit somehow linger between the hitter being unsummoned away, and the other creature receiving the hit?

The gameplay trickery that using the stack for combat damage allows is just gimmicky (and quite unintuitive, and can feel unfair for good reasons). Removing the stack from this does not remove strategic depth, it just changes it. Now you have to decide whether you want to block with that creature you can sacrifice or not; you have a choice to make, you can't have the cake and eat it too: Either you block and deal combat damage, or you block and sacrifice without dealing combat damage. You can't have both, sorry, tough luck. But that's the name of the game.

What people are complaining about is that they could do more before, and now they are more restricted. It's not about strategic depth, it's about the strategies being different.

I'm pretty certain that if the current combat rules had been used from the beginning up to 2010, and then they changed it to use the stack, people would still complain as much as they do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The genius of the 6th Edition change was that combat worked like everything else&#8221;</p>
<p>This is nonsense. Not everything uses the stack. Playing lands doesn&#8217;t use the stack, paying costs doesn&#8217;t use the stack, activating mana abilities doesn&#8217;t use the stack, drawing cards doesn&#8217;t use the stack, creatures being destroyed because of having 0 toughness doesn&#8217;t use the stack, tapping and untapping doesn&#8217;t use the stack, removing combat damage at the end of turn doesn&#8217;t use the stack&#8230; Heck there are probably a hundred times more actions in the game that don&#8217;t use that stack than those that do. Making combat damage not use the stack actually makes it more in line with the majority of actions.</p>
<p>Having combat damage use the stack is unintuitive, both from a flavor and from a gameplay point of view. Flavorwise these are physical creatures hitting each other. It makes no sense that a creature hits another and the other hits back and then, somehow, one of them is eg. unsummoned but its hit still connects afterwards, but it doesn&#8217;t get any damage itself. How exactly does this physical hit somehow linger between the hitter being unsummoned away, and the other creature receiving the hit?</p>
<p>The gameplay trickery that using the stack for combat damage allows is just gimmicky (and quite unintuitive, and can feel unfair for good reasons). Removing the stack from this does not remove strategic depth, it just changes it. Now you have to decide whether you want to block with that creature you can sacrifice or not; you have a choice to make, you can&#8217;t have the cake and eat it too: Either you block and deal combat damage, or you block and sacrifice without dealing combat damage. You can&#8217;t have both, sorry, tough luck. But that&#8217;s the name of the game.</p>
<p>What people are complaining about is that they could do more before, and now they are more restricted. It&#8217;s not about strategic depth, it&#8217;s about the strategies being different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty certain that if the current combat rules had been used from the beginning up to 2010, and then they changed it to use the stack, people would still complain as much as they do now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Podcasts: Ravitz and BDM by Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/04/new-podcasts-ravitz-and-bdm/#comment-5004</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Need new Casts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Podcast - Everything to Everyone! by Derek (not related to Derric)</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/03/podcast-everything-to-everyone/#comment-4972</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek (not related to Derric)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoy listening to Top 8 Magic, in fact sometimes I re-listen to several-minute segments at a time to get to the bottom of what is being discussed, either because I don't know the context of it, or to sort through the ideas that are being put forth.

Thanks for casting, I've listened to every one, please do this more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy listening to Top 8 Magic, in fact sometimes I re-listen to several-minute segments at a time to get to the bottom of what is being discussed, either because I don&#8217;t know the context of it, or to sort through the ideas that are being put forth.</p>
<p>Thanks for casting, I&#8217;ve listened to every one, please do this more often.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Podcasts: Ravitz and BDM by butch</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/04/new-podcasts-ravitz-and-bdm/#comment-4713</link>
		<dc:creator>butch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 23:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above and beyond, Mike!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Podcast - Everything to Everyone! by butch</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/03/podcast-everything-to-everyone/#comment-4542</link>
		<dc:creator>butch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BDM did seem a bit...subdued in this format. But still... nice cast guys. :) You guys reminded me to catch up with Young Justice (which is awesome)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BDM did seem a bit&#8230;subdued in this format. But still&#8230; nice cast guys. <img src='http://www.top8magic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> You guys reminded me to catch up with Young Justice (which is awesome)</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Podcasts: Ravitz and BDM by wills</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/04/new-podcasts-ravitz-and-bdm/#comment-4510</link>
		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, nevermind, I just got the point in the other cast where you guys discuss how you don't know how to post podcasts and are just going to email them to Otwell -- I'll just change my iTunes subscription to the mtgcast top8magic feed....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, nevermind, I just got the point in the other cast where you guys discuss how you don&#8217;t know how to post podcasts and are just going to email them to Otwell &#8212; I&#8217;ll just change my iTunes subscription to the mtgcast top8magic feed&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Podcast - Everything to Everyone! by wills</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/03/podcast-everything-to-everyone/#comment-4509</link>
		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm late listening to this one....  It's been a while since I reviewed the details of the Kibler/Finkel match, but I think you are not giving Finkel's line of play enough credit.  If he did the things you were talking about (blocking a wolf, not flashing back Lingering Souls), he would have lost to Inferno Titan.  The Titan would have come down and taken out three dorks, making Finkel's next attack non-lethal.  Finkel had no way to deal with the Titan, so on Kibler's next turn, the Titan would have taken out another three dorks before blockers and basically locked Finkel out of any chance of winning.  For Finkel, the choice was whether to play around triple Galvanic Blast or to play around Inferno Titan.  Perhaps he should have read Kibler and put him on one or two Blasts, but it still seems correct to favor playing around a top-decked Titan over a top-decked third Blast.  At least, that's what I remember from when I saw the match -- I might be misremembering the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late listening to this one&#8230;.  It&#8217;s been a while since I reviewed the details of the Kibler/Finkel match, but I think you are not giving Finkel&#8217;s line of play enough credit.  If he did the things you were talking about (blocking a wolf, not flashing back Lingering Souls), he would have lost to Inferno Titan.  The Titan would have come down and taken out three dorks, making Finkel&#8217;s next attack non-lethal.  Finkel had no way to deal with the Titan, so on Kibler&#8217;s next turn, the Titan would have taken out another three dorks before blockers and basically locked Finkel out of any chance of winning.  For Finkel, the choice was whether to play around triple Galvanic Blast or to play around Inferno Titan.  Perhaps he should have read Kibler and put him on one or two Blasts, but it still seems correct to favor playing around a top-decked Titan over a top-decked third Blast.  At least, that&#8217;s what I remember from when I saw the match &#8212; I might be misremembering the details.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Podcasts: Ravitz and BDM by wills</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/2012/04/new-podcasts-ravitz-and-bdm/#comment-4508</link>
		<dc:creator>wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: the way the last few podcasts have been posted, they have not shown up in the top8magic iTunes feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: the way the last few podcasts have been posted, they have not shown up in the top8magic iTunes feed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michael J. Flores: Deckade by Uda</title>
		<link>http://www.top8magic.com/store/store-michael-j-flores-deckade/#comment-4434</link>
		<dc:creator>Uda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, is the book still available? Can't seem to find it anywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, is the book still available? Can&#8217;t seem to find it anywhere</p>
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